Legislature(2007 - 2008)HOUSE FINANCE 519

01/24/2007 01:30 PM House FINANCE


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                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                      January 24, 2007                                                                                          
                         1:35 P.M.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
 CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Chenault called the House Finance Committee                                                                     
 meeting to order at 1:35:56 PM.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
 MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Mike Chenault, Co-Chair                                                                                         
 Representative Kevin Meyer, Co-Chair                                                                                           
 Representative Bill Stoltze, Vice-Chair                                                                                        
 Representative Harry Crawford                                                                                                  
 Representative Les Gara                                                                                                        
 Representative Mike Hawker                                                                                                     
 Representative Mike Kelly                                                                                                      
 Representative Mary Nelson                                                                                                     
 Representative Bill Thomas Jr.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
 MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Richard Foster                                                                                                  
 Representative Reggie Joule                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
 ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
 Karen Rehfeld, Director, Office of the Governor, Office of                                                                     
 Management and Budget (OMB)                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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          OVERVIEW: OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT & BUDGET                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
The  following  overview was  taken  in  log  note  format.                                                                     
Handouts  are on  file  with  the House  Finance  Committee                                                                     
through  the 25th  Legislative Session,  contact  465-6814.                                                                     
After the 25th  Legislative Session they will be  available                                                                     
through the Legislative Library at 465-3808.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 TIME        SPEAKER        DISCUSSION                                                                                      
 1:36:25 PM Representative Convened the House Finance Committee                                                               
             Chenault       meeting in order to hear a presentation                                                             
                            from    the   Governor's   Office    of                                                             
                            Management and Budget proposed budget                                                               
                            strategy.                                                                                         
 1:36:44 PM KAREN REHFELD, Introduced the staff for the Office of                                                             
             DIRECTOR,      Management and Budget (OMB): Budget                                                                 
             OFFICE      OF Analysts including Karen Elliott, Kym                                                               
             MANAGEMENT   & Mauseth, Steve  Hildebrand, Mike Crabb,                                                           
            BUDGET          Tuula Marquardt, Lena Simmons & Mary                                                                
                            Sutton;  Management Analyst  Jo  Ellen                                                              
                            Hanrahan, performance based budgeting;                                                              
                            Internal Auditor Diane Burnham; the two                                                             
                            Policy Analysts are Jack Kreinheder and                                                             
                            John  Boucher; and  the  Chief  Budget                                                              
                            Analyst for the entire  office is Joan                                                              
                            Brown.  Ms. Rehfeld added appreciation                                                              
                            for  the Legislative  Finance Division                                                              
                            employees for  the work  that  they do                                                              
                           each year.                                                                                         
1:39:02 PM Ms. Rehfeld      Provided a general overview of the                                                                
                            Governor's FY08 proposal.  The Governor                                                             
                            has been clear  that her intent  is to                                                              
                            spend  less,  control  the  growth  of                                                              
                            government,  save  surplus   and  live                                                              
                            within  the  State's means.  The  FY08                                                              
                            Capital  and   Operating   budget  was                                                              
                            prepared with those goals in mind.  The                                                             
                            budget was based on a revenue estimate                                                              
                            of $3.9 billion dollars from the $52.25                                                             
                            bbl oil price.                                                                                    
1:39:43 PM Ms. Rehfeld      Budget estimates will be adjusted as                                                              
                            the Department of Revenue updates their                                                             
                            forecast.  At this point, a decline has                                                             
                            been indicated, which  reinforces that                                                              
                            the State  needs  to look  at ways  to                                                              
                            control spending.                                                                                 
1:40:04 PM Ms. Rehfeld      The Governor intends to save the                                                                  
                            surplus  by  depositing  $1.9  billion                                                              
                            dollars into the Constitutional Budget                                                              
                            Reserve (CBR),  based on  an estimated                                                              
                            FY07 surplus of  $1.4 billion dollars;                                                              
                            in FY08 of about $500 million dollars.                                                            
1:40:37 PM Ms. Rehfeld      In the FY08 budget package, the                                                                   
                            Governor introduced HB 97,  a separate                                                              
                            education funding  bill.     That bill                                                              
                            includes   full   funding    for   the                                                              
                            foundation    program     and    pupil                                                              
                            transportation.  The  Governor is also                                                              
                            committed to  cost  increases  in  the                                                              
                            retirement system; she is  hoping that                                                              
                            there is  legislative  consideration &                                                              
                            action on that bill prior to the March                                                              
                            2007 deadline.                                                                                    
1:41:44 PM Ms. Rehfeld      The   Governor  has   introduced   the                                                            
                            operating  and   comprehensive  mental                                                              
                            health budget bills - HB 95 and HB 96.                                                              
                            The  Governing is  intending to  cover                                                              
                            approximately $77.5 million dollars in                                                              
                            the  retirement system  cost increases                                                              
                            for  local  governments to  cover  the                                                              
                            costs  of   State  government.     The                                                            
                            Governor plans to restore the Longevity                                                             
                            Bonus Program at just under $34 million                                                             
                            dollars.                                                                                            
                            Ms.  Rehfeld highlighted  focus on  the                                                             
                            Public Offices Commission, funding of a                                                             
                            new  investigator position.     A  $150                                                             
                            million  dollar spending reduction  was                                                             
                            included  for State government and  all                                                             
                            departments  are  in   the  process  of                                                             
                            program reviews.  That review will look                                                             
                            at  the  effectiveness of the  programs                                                             
                            and  the  changes  that could  be  made                                                             
                            resulting in  cost savings.   She noted                                                             
                            the  perforce-based budgeting - mission                                                             
                            and measure guidelines.                                                                           
 1:43:50 PM Ms. Rehfeld     Referenced the handout - "Results at a                                                            
                            Glance", a  summary of the  mission and                                                             
                            measures  framework.   [Copy on  File].                                                             
                            The   handout  provides  a  highlighted                                                             
                            summary.    The  Governor's  Office  is                                                             
                            looking at ways for savings within each                                                             
                            agency.   The targets  were established                                                             
                            to  provide departments with a goal  to                                                             
                            work  toward.     She  added  that  the                                                             
                            Governor    would   be    asking    the                                                             
                            University,  the Court  System and  the                                                             
                            Legislature  to  contribute toward  the                                                             
                            savings plan.                                                                                     
 1:45:49 PM Ms. Rehfeld     Stated that the Governor has introduced                                                           
                            a   barebones   FY08  Capital   budget,                                                             
                            including a general fund match, federal                                                             
                            funds and school construction projects.                                                             
                            The     spending    plan     highlights                                                             
                            approximately   $133  million   dollars                                                             
                            available  for  allocation to  priority                                                             
                            projects  in the  capital budget.   The                                                             
                            Governor   wants  to   work  with   the                                                             
                            Legislature     to    develop     those                                                             
                           priorities.                                                                                        
 1:47:01 PM Ms. Rehfeld     Pointed out the early supplemental bill                                                           
                            request components including  a general                                                             
                            fund  request  in  the amount  of  $1.2                                                             
                            million  dollars  for  the  April  2007                                                             
                            election  on   the  same-sex  benefits.                                                             
                            Those costs are related to the printing                                                             
                            of  the  ballots &  the  costs of  that                                                             
                            election.   Another cost relates to the                                                             
                            Copper  River -  Prince Williams  Sound                                                             
                            Development  Association,  which  began                                                             
                            collecting taxes in FY05.   Also, large                                                             
                            component  of that  request is the  $12                                                             
                            million  dollars for litigation in  the                                                             
                            Department   of   Law   for   actuarial                                                           
                            services for the State of Alaska.  The                                                              
                            Department looks forward to discussing                                                              
                            that  request  with  the  Legislature.                                                              
                            The   regular   supplemental   request                                                              
                            includes information from the agencies.                                                             
                            OMB is  targeting $60 million dollars.                                                              
                            Ms.   Rehfeld   understood  that   the                                                              
                                                               th                                                               
                            deadline for requests was February 14.                                                            
1:49:30 PM Ms. Rehfeld      Highlighted   other   items   in   the                                                            
                            Governor's proposed packet: The repeal                                                              
                            of the  studded tire  tax [HB  106], a                                                              
                            $1.4  million   dollar   reduction  in                                                              
                            revenue.                                                                                            
                            There will be legislation to reduce the                                                             
                            cost of business license fees.                                                                      
                            The Governor has introduced HB 99, the                                                              
                            proposed appropriation to the principle                                                             
                            of the Permanent Fund in the amount of                                                              
                            $1.3  billion  dollars,  leaving  $1.7                                                              
                            billion  for  dividends and  inflation                                                              
                            proofing.    The  Governor anticipates                                                              
                            working closely with the Legislature to                                                             
                            help Alaska sustain in the future.                                                                
1:51:04 PM Representative Asked about full-funding for education                                                              
            Gara            and if it would be full funding at last                                                             
                            year's level with  no increases.   Ms.                                                              
                            Rehfeld  responded that  full  funding                                                              
                            meant,  full  funding of  the  current                                                              
                            formula  entitlement,  based   on  the                                                              
                            current formula.   There  has  been no                                                              
                            change proposed  to date  of  the base                                                              
                            student allocation.                                                                                 
                            Representative   Gara    asked   about                                                              
                            increases  to  the   budget  to  cover                                                              
                            retirement   costs.      Ms.   Rehfeld                                                              
                            explained   that   the   Governor   is                                                              
                            committed to  providing  resources for                                                              
                            the retirement system costs.                                                                      
                                                                 th                                                             
1:52:51 PM Representative Mentioned the memo dated January 19                                                                 
            Gara            regarding   the   Governor's  proposed                                                              
                            operating  budget   reduction.      He                                                              
                            questioned how  those  cuts  could  be                                                              
                            offset  with   the   proposed  program                                                              
                            increases.   Ms. Rehfeld  advised that                                                              
                            the memo  had a  spreadsheet attached,                                                              
                            indicating how  the  calculations  had                                                              
                            been  determined.   The  General  Fund                                                              
                            identified for the agencies, (excluding                                                             
                            the University, the Legislature and the                                                             
                            Court  System),  $3  billion  dollars,                                                              
                            backing out  priority  items.   A  10%                                                              
                            reduction  was  applied  to  the  main                                                              
                            General Fund.                                                                                     
 1:55:19 PM Representative From that testimony, Representative                                                                
             Gara           Gara understood that the Administration                                                             
                            was  not   attempting to   get  a  $150                                                             
                            million dollar budget  reduction as far                                                             
                            as  the  overall budget.   Ms.  Rehfeld                                                             
                            clarified  that   the  Governor's  fund                                                             
                            proposal  for General Fund  spending is                                                             
                            approximately $3.9 billion  dollars and                                                             
                            within that,  the agencies will attempt                                                             
                            to  find savings of about  $150 million                                                             
                            dollars.    If they  are successful  in                                                             
                            getting  the savings  on the  operating                                                             
                            side,  it will impact  what is done  on                                                             
                            the capital side of the budget.                                                                   
 1:56:31 PM Vice      Chair Asked if the FY07 surplus of $1.4                                                                 
             Meyer          billion dollars had been updated.  Ms.                                                              
                            Rehfeld  responded  that was  the  best                                                             
                            number on hand at this time.                                                                        
                            Vice Chair Meyer understood the surplus                                                             
                            would be placed into the Capital Budget                                                             
                            Reserve (CBR).   He noted historically,                                                             
                            the   amount   was  placed   into   the                                                             
                            education   fund;  he   questioned  the                                                             
                            unfunded   liability  debt,   currently                                                             
                            existing.    He  proposed using  ½  the                                                             
                            savings for the education fund and half                                                             
                            for the  CBR.  Ms. Rehfeld advised that                                                             
                            the  proposal was only a starting point                                                             
                            and  that the  Governor was willing  to                                                             
                            discuss options.                                                                                    
                            Vice  Chair  Meyer  inquired  regarding                                                             
                            discussion    about     the    unfunded                                                             
                            liability.    Ms.  Rehfeld stated  that                                                             
                            they  were working with  the Department                                                             
                            of   Administration  regarding  various                                                             
                            approaches to the retirement system.                                                              
 1:59:55 PM Vice      Chair Questioned if the collective bargaining                                                           
             Meyer          contracts would be brought forward.                                                                 
                            Ms.  Rehfeld responded that there are 8                                                             
                            contracts  up for negotiation in  FY08.                                                             
                            Vice Chair Meyer acknowledged that they                                                             
                            can not be budgeted for.                                                                            
                            Co-Chair Meyer  mentioned the Longevity                                                             
                            Bonus being revisited & substitution of                                                             
                            the Senior Care program, which is needs                                                             
                            based.   He asked if that program would                                                             
                            "go  away".  Ms. Rehfeld responded that                                                             
                            both programs are  included in the FY08                                                             
                            budget.                                                                                             
                            Vice  Chair  Meyer  questioned  if  the                                                             
                            Administration believed  that the  $150                                                             
                            million dollars  budget reduction could                                                             
                            be met.  He stated it would not be easy                                                           
                            to meet that goal.  Ms. Rehfeld agreed.                                                           
2:02:16 PM Representative Voiced concern with the targeted                                                                    
            Nelson          reduction of $150 million dollars                                                                   
                            statewide.    She  said  her  greatest                                                              
                            concern was with cuts to the Department                                                             
                            of  Health   &  Social   Services  and                                                              
                            Department  of  Public  Safety.    Ms.                                                              
                            Rehfeld reiterated  that  the Governor                                                              
                            looks  forward  to   discussions  with                                                              
                            legislators regarding impacts resulting                                                             
                            from the proposed budget.                                                                         
2:04:47 PM Representative Agreed that the Legislature is capable                                                              
            Hawker          of making such reductions; however, he                                                              
                            worried about the consequences of such                                                              
                            drastic cuts.  Ms. Rehfeld advised that                                                             
                            the Governor has identified a "place-                                                               
                            holder" in the amount of approximately                                                              
                            $133  million dollars.    If the  $150                                                              
                            million dollar  goal is  not  met, the                                                              
                            priorities will be  established by the                                                              
                            Legislature.   Otherwise,  the dollars                                                              
                            would  be  removed   from  either  the                                                              
                            operating or capital budget.                                                                      
2:06:44 PM Representative Emphasized that it will be difficult to                                                             
            Chenault        reach   that   $150   million   dollar                                                              
                            reduction, especially in 90-days.   He                                                              
                            pointed out the schedule for closing-                                                               
                            out the budget within 90-days.  He did                                                              
                            not want  to  see a  diminished public                                                              
                            process and hence had concerns.                                                                   
2:10:42 PM Representative Added      concerns     regarding    the                                                            
            Stoltze         accelerated   schedules,   reiterating                                                              
                            comments about the enhanced challenges                                                              
                            meeting proposed budget reductions.                                                               
2:11:53 PM Vice       Chair Addressed   expended   boundaries   at                                                            
            Meyer           Prudhoe Bay to cover some of the                                                                    
                            marginal fields.   He asked  about the                                                              
                            higher  tax  rate  and   if  that  was                                                              
                            currently being collected.  Ms. Rehfeld                                                             
                            did not  know  but offered  to provide                                                              
                            that information to the Committee.                                                                  
                            Vice Chair Meyer asked  when the State                                                              
                            would receive money from the Crew Ship                                                              
                            Initiative.    Ms.  Rehfeld understood                                                              
                            that would begin to be collected in the                                                             
                            beginning of  May  2007.   That  money                                                              
                            would not  be  built  into the  budget                                                              
                           until FY09.                                                                                        
2:13:36 PM Representative ADJOURNMENT                                                                                       
            Chenault                                                                                                            
                            The meeting was adjourned at 2:13 P.M.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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